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I think one of my beliefs that many TPOTers would find problematic is that I'd aspire to trying to change the norms of the larger environment, rather than simply retreating into a walled garden to "just grill". Do you share my assessment that this would be seen as problematic by many?

Imo the ppl "just grilling" in tpot are still contributing - an example of things going better? what makes the walls too high in your opinion?
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