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@PrinceVogel @peachblvd @Tjdriii Tbh I'm sympathetic to avoiding fancy formal first date- just need context for relaxed conversation to see if there's a spark... But if there is, would want quick follow up with higher effort second date- which could still be fancy garden teahouse rather than alcohol πŸ€·β€β™€οΈ
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@PrinceVogel @peachblvd @Tjdriii But if it's repeated cheap, low effort, difficult to schedule dates when he has a good job then yeah I think the guy is either not that into you / busy dating around or unwilling to invest in any relationship.

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