@HephaistosF @chaosprime yes but it's my, like religious? belief that they're also damaged & their highest self doesn't endorse the sadistic joy, but that they only feel safe when they've got someone beneath them to redirect violence towards & like a caged animal when not.. bec I believe they have a higher self that's further harmed by harming others, I believe it is actually in their interest to prevent them from doing so while trying to help them feel safe enough to stop *wanting* to hurt ppl