@sayestheorem @parafactual what's the argument wrt New Zealand beef & lamb? just welfare standards and an argument that the wild native animals they displace by grazing would lead a worse life?
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Reply · Jul 9, 2024@RokoMijic @nick_andrws imo the short suffering lives of factory farmed animals are not better than nonexistence plus the farmland (mostly growing…Reply · Oct 14, 2023@sayestheorem @parafactual what is the less expensive wild animal intervention we're missing that doesn't lead back to veganism?Reply · May 25, 2023somewhat both, but I feel the stronger more universal argument is welfare & environmental sustainability... like, hunting at a sustainable level…Reply · Jul 16, 2025@NathanpmYoung yes! with the caveat that i wonder how it scales- some of my issues wrt animal agriculture are around land use and i'm not sure what…