@bayeslord i get really confused, what else Rob Burbea would mean when he says like: "There's nothing outside that emptiness, nothing that stands outside what is empty, what is mutually dependent, what is groundless. The whole of existence is groundless"
@bayeslord https://hermesamara.org/resources/talk/2010-02-13-the-subtlety-of-dependent-origination (source of that quote, though tbh it's his book Seeing That Frees that i've been struggling w)