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@arithmoquine it's an annoying conversation because it's more opposed to EA in practice than EA in theory; like, wrt global poverty e/acc says go fund startups for things poor ppl need and fund GiveDirectly, rather than doing stuff like EAG conferences & buying castles, because the market will…
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@arithmoquine wrt ai, we say that ASI in the sense of "magic perfect predictor" is not real and orthogonality is circumscribed by the second law of thermodynamics ... that good alignment research IS capabilities research... that the various methods of control proposed by Safetyists are more…

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@arithmoquine also vibe-based reasoning, intuition, aesthetics are valid sources of wisdom in a complex world -> sense of disgust from some e/accs for what they see as debauchery & degeneracy of polyamorous psychedelic orgies among SF Rats

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